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Rumors and Accusations Cast Shadows on Brown and Black Presidential Forum

Started by CIM Network · 10 months ago

As Saturday night’s Brown and Black Presidential Forum in Des Moines draws near, concerns have emerged about the way it is being organized.  The forum, which is the oldest minority-focused presidential debate in the country, is one of the great traditions of the Iowa Caucu ... Continue reading »

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  • ChrisWoods

    1 year ago

    Problems getting tickets Chase, family and friends of mine interested in going to the forum have had problems getting tickets even though they live in the neighborhood and have (or have had) children attend North High.  They tried calling Urban Dreams, the organization listed on their website for more information and they were told by someone working there that they didn't know how the tickets were being distributed--and that was a phone call early this week.  I blogged a bit about this here.


    Happy holidays!

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  • desmoinesdem

    1 year ago

    I expect several endorsements after the forum Several weeks ago I saw Representative Ako Abdul-Samad at an event, and I asked him if he was planning to endorse. He said he would make an endorsement sometime after the Brown and Black Forum. He waited until the last week or two of the campaign to endorse Kerry last time.


    I'm sorry to hear about problems with the tickets. I hope this will not turn into a repeat of the Las Vegas debate, with a bunch of Clinton supporters getting a disproportionate number of seats and booing other candidates.

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  • Josey

    1 year ago

    Clintons never change and will emulate Karl Rove in doing whatever it takes to win - however illegal and unethical.

    Former Clinton supporter who's seen the light and now supporting Edwards.


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  • Concernedparent

    1 year ago

    Dishonesty This is absurd that the Caucus Organizors will allow such corruption. All of this should be revealed to the public and the citizens of Iowa AND other caucus states should not allow BRIBERY to take place in this crucial decision-making process. Selfishness in this process is HUGH in the price of so many people involved. What else will these people do to get elected?
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  • MarkieBee

    1 year ago

    Hinky Hillary again? Perhaps the rest of the tickets are going out to New York Chinatown dishwashers as thanks for their $1,000 donations to Hillary's campaign. The campaign will fly them in on Vinod Gupta's private jet. The Las Vegas planted booers have already maxed out and have to find their own way there.
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  • vwcat

    1 year ago

    hillary will allienate voters the fallout from the Las Vegas fiasco hurt Clinton.  and people have seen politicians who said they would support either Obama or Edwards suddenly endorse Hillary amid reports of arm twisting and threats.

    For her to stack the forum will serve to upset voters against her even more.


    This is why her negatives are so high and she is seen as not being ethical or trustworthy.


    Please keep us informed.  I'm sure we will know if it's true this weekend.  And I hope the people in Iowa will raise kane over it.
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  • Maria

    1 year ago

    Gall Clintons seem to have an overflowing dose of the stuff..thanks for reporting this and please do keep us posted.


    Thank goodness for the internet and courageous voices..


    Obama and every other candidate in this race is out there talking to regular folk every day while she's bribing and threatening..Please IA, NH, SC, NV..deny her your precious vote..

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  • sgriffine

    1 year ago

    S. Griffin If there is a real sense of violations of ethics in the organizing of this forum, I think the other candidates should band together and express their desire to boycott this event unless full disclosure as to the seating and disemination of tickets and co-hosts.  I don't think they should be obligated to participate in a "FIXED" event.  I

    hope exposure of how the audience participation is being


    developed and full accountability is what the people of Iowa deserve...they should not be blindsided into viewing or attending an event that has a partisan agenda...is your daily news committment.  Thanks for bringing this to light! 
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  • Allen Spencer

    1 year ago

    " A Mind of My Own " I thank God that I live in a country where I can express my thoughts and ideas as so many have done in the above comments. Isn't it funny that when people don't get what they want, or feel excluded to express their own views, they critize others and the process in which something is being done? I don't care what Wayne Ford or Mary Campos does, they are going to be hit with peoples opinions, especially if its not along the lines of what certain individuals feel is their point of view. Hats off to Wayne and Mary for their continued work in putting on the Black & Brown Forum. The whole essense of presenting the Forum is where different ideas come together to help others make their choice of who they choose to support, the same as Mr. Ford and Ms. Campos will do when the time is appropriate. Stop bickering, and choose who you feel is the best person that has your interest at heart, as hopefully you have a mine of your own. Isn't it beautiful that you can do this, regardless of what Ms. Clinton or her supporters do because you are in charge of you and your own destiny?
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  • iPol

    1 year ago

    Innuendo From the Merriam-Webster On-line Dictionary:


    Innuendo - Pronunciation:
      \?in-y?-?wen-(?)d?, -y

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  • JoeCHI

    1 year ago

    The Art of the Possible Chase:


    You've made the impossible possible.  You've made Bob Novack look ethical and reasonable.


    You've done it by elevating rumor and innuendo and weaving them both into a story that is even more thinly-sourced than Bob Novack's latest.


    That is some accomplishment

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  • CornBred

    1 year ago

    Shocked...absolutely shocked! I'm shocked...absolutely shocked about these allegations!  Not really.  The comical part to Clinton-rigging is it's SO transparent.  Trying to rig any event by packing the crowd with your supporters just becomes SO obvious.  The Nevada debate was comical.  Hordes of unseen fans actually booing candidates who were not Hillary.  This kind of stuff has done nothing but harm Hillary's chances.  It plays into Hillary's two worst problems which is Americans just do not like her from a personality standpoint and don't simply don't trust her. 


    As a result, Dems who don't like her become more set in that stance, and Dems who are still trying to decide lean toward someone else.  Simple.  If I were Obama, I'd be praying for Clinton manipulation of this event, because the truth comes out afterward and Clinton drops another couple percent.

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  • Dave

    1 year ago

    Facts Facts can become hard to come by when you get stonewalled at every turn where those extra 600+ tickets are going. Innuendo can be resolved in an instant if Ford and Campos speak the truth.
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  • Dave

    1 year ago

    Ah Taking a valid concern and comparing it to a right winger...a gambit taken straight out of the Clinton binder.

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  • Jammer

    1 year ago

    Hatred and Loathing I cannot believe the hatred and loathing for Hillary I see here.  You people are out of your minds.  Why on earth do you get the first say in this political season?
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  • ImamKashif

    1 year ago

    We The People R gonna decide the election; wit elbow grease and HOPE.... ole boy and ole gurl have bout much influence N DMIA as Sammy Davis jr& Molly Hatcher.... N the last 20yrs Ford and Campos have done nada for any race of people all they R interested N is enrich'n they pockets they both came from dirt po' back grounds and to them they will return.... Of course they R Mrs Clitons Ask kissers and boot lickers wit Ako B'n a jerk off,,,, I run this town ImamKashif and I'm PROMISE'N U WE THE PEOPLE NEIGHBORHOODS pre% 57 and 36 R go'n wit HOPE N All hold that down
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  • Zen

    1 year ago

    "A Mind is a terrible thing to waste" You missed the point of this Report, it's about Ms. Clinton trying to persuade the public with a fixed forum.
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  • Maria

    1 year ago

    Oh Please Anybody knowing the Hillary campaign for all of 5 minutes knows the brick wall enriched by lead enriched by asbestos pants by which she is protected.
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  • Maria

    1 year ago

    Any negativity You see here is not just by Iowans..I'm from upstate, NY..it's about the assualt on democracy that Hillary takes upon herself to freely excoriate those who are not 'with her.'


    Unwilling to allow the voters to decide based on who she is and what she represents via policy and beliefs, she resorts to rigging things like strong arming civil rights icons, Nevada leadership and CNN leadership.


    There are 7 other capable candidates in the Dem party working hard and honestly for our vote..why should she get it? and why should not the electorate know what she's up to?

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  • independent 08

    1 year ago

    How dare you? How dare you post such innuendo with no supporting facts?  How dare you not go directly to Campos and Ford for their defense of these allegations?.....oh you did?  How dare you not even give them a chance to explain how they will distribute the other 600 tix?.....oh, you did?


    The Hillary-supporting posters on this board who are trying to shoot the messenger, but their whining is pretty hollow.  These are legitimate questions to raise, and the non-denials and lack of explanations out of Ford and Campo speak volumes.


    A response like, "I don't think that question needs an answer," is not a denial.  If the explanation to how the other 600 tix are distributed is innocent, why not offer it?  For Campos and Ford to act like they don't have to answer legitimate questions suggests that they don't feel accountable to their constituents, at least those that aren't supporting Hillary.

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  • section9

    1 year ago

    She can't help herself Just as she fixed the crowd in Vegas with friendly union guys, she's going to pack the crowd with her own goons.


    Funny how you guys keep voting for these people.

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  • Concerned DSM Citizen

    1 year ago

    Ticket Fiasco Fact - The North High School auditorium is the largest school auditorium in the Des Moines public schools. The North High School auditorium capacity - 1,800.


    50 tickets are distributed to 8 candidates campaigns = 400 tickets


    200 tickets allocated to the local and national media


    Wayne Ford and Mary Campos give out 1,200 tickets at their own discretion


    I tried on 4 occasions over a four day period to obtain tickets from Urban Dreams (Wayne Ford Executive Director) without success. I e-mailed a request for tickets, I called twice and finally visited the office for tickets and each time I was given a different story about the ticket situation and each time I was denied access.


    I live in and work in the community.  It's unfortunate that two organizers have manipulated the process and denied access for local citizens of color to participate in the political process.
     

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  • Fair Play

    1 year ago

    Special Clinton Guest Special Note:  The two special out of state guest invited by Mary Campos and Wayne Ford are the mayors of Los Angeles and Trenton, New Jersey.  Both identified Clinton supporters who sit on her national steering committee.
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  • Inner City Res.

    1 year ago

    Inner City Residents Left Out I called Urban Dreams Tuesday morning. They told me to come in on Friday morning at 9:00 AM for tickets - first come first serve. When I arrived at 9:00 AM Friday morning they said they had no tickets available and to return at 3:00 PM for tickets.  When I returned at 3:00 PM they stated that I was not on the list and I could not have tickets.
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  • iPol

    1 year ago

    "Facts are hard to come by" Thank you for the implicit acknowledgement that the article contains no suporting facts.


    As to innuendo, the burden of proof is upon those who propagate it, not those toward whom it is directed.

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  • JImmieFromDayton

    1 year ago

    Parsing is played out! You guys just don't get it. You, like your candidate think that you're being wise with cloak and dagger rountines but soon you will see that the voters are no longer willing to accept the Clintons polical playbook. Who are the other fricking tickets going to and why? I hope that the other campaign demand an answer. This is simple stuff folks it shouldn't require a freaking subpoena to get an answer.

    Crooks!
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