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World Travel Guide — Sat, 07 May 2011 06:50:12 -0000

Always was interested in this theme! This is truly amazing. The said event is a successful one. The
real cause has been sent and been observed. I do hope I could attend one
someday and put my support.

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free online dating site — Sat, 07 May 2011 03:40:32 -0000

A good blog! John - My
family members were ALL born here in the U.S. - as legal citizens - so
please don't call me an immigrant! You might want to find a new country
to call home and spread your compassion there!

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Pirates 4 — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 04:56:50 -0000

them what they thought were citizenship papers so workers thought they were becoming citizens through working there

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wart removal — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:47:27 -0000

Indeed. And if you want to make a noise or to have the attention of the government is to go to streets and rally, so that the government will not ignore you.

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Janice — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:05:23 -0000

This is truly amazing. The said event is a successful one. The real cause has been sent and been observed. I do hope I could attend one someday and put my support.

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gg213 — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:06:54 -0000

you are right god made this world with one man in one woman color or region or ethnic was involved...the world was made in one day and expanded....so all the seperation and saying send them back to mexico that just shows how much they are against mexicans only or any hispanic ....what happened to fighting against wars and world peace and really incarceratig terrorists and rapist in our own country...so know that mexico is blamed for all the drugs its all on them ...pleassseeee...united states makes their own and alabama, tennesse, missisippi are full of people that still live in the 70s come on get a life and see your surroundings and start interacting with different cultures... there are so much curroptions in these states and going on bankruptcy because of their own lazy americans..if it was not for illegals they wouldnt budget...numbers say it all ...viva la unidad!!!!

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IS ALL BOUT THEM FRIENDS — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:00:43 -0000

Man some people are so freaking races.! we are all people in this country. We are the same from the inside it doesnt matter what we look in the outside or where we re from. some white folk need to chill is not there damn country . they dont own it!! Racist people get no where so stop your complaining!! WE ARE STAYING! YALL JUST JEALOUS CAUSE LATINOS HAVE MORE FUN!!! QUE VIVA LA RAZA Y LOS LATINOS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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hankjmatt — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:10 -0000

Why do you think illegals are here in Iowa? Because they were brought here because no Iowan's would put up with slave wages and not complain. Plus the plant was selling them what they thought were citizenship papers so workers thought they were becoming citizens through working there. They were exploited at every turn and how do you think they get back on there own?
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Lynda Waddington — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:25:33 -0000

To clarify one point I've seen made in this thread: St. Bridget's Catholic Church in Postville is not raking money into their coffers. It's a very small congregation -- roughly 100 parishioners at Saturday mass -- that is spending money just as quickly as the money is taken in.

I'm sure that there is room for debate on if the church is doing the right thing by helping those who have been left in a lurch following the raid; however, it is not fair to imply that those working the ministry are using the crisis to feather their own nests. As one of the journalists who has been reporting on the ground in Postville and who has visited the church and parish several times, there is absolutely no evidence that the church leadership is doing anything improper with the monetary donations that have been collected.

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NoteTaker — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:08:39 -0000

There are several noteworthy things about this issue.

First, these aliens (not "illegal immigrants," the politically-correct term) broke the law by entering the United States in a method inconsistent with proper, well-established and lawful procedures. On that basis alone they are criminals…period.

Second, their illegal entry is a slap in the face to those who did the right thing, both morally and legally, by following the rules, waiting, in many cases, for years.

Third, their illegal entry tells others that they have no issue with breaking the law. After all, they simply “want a better life.” Lawlessness begets lawlessness, and all such actions, whether committed by aliens or citizens, reinforce the idea that breaking the law is acceptable when it suits our own purposes; the ends justify the means. It’s “situation ethics” on a grand scale.

Fourth, their illegal entry speaks volumes about the type of citizen they might be should they ever actually become lawfully naturalized, which in and of itself seems doubtful.

Fifth, there is a lot of blame to spread around in this regard. Employers, as “good community citizens,” have a duty, both morally and legally, to see past the dollar signs and do the right thing. Aliens also have the same moral and legal responsibility to follow the law. To “want a better life” should not and does not include side-stepping the legality of their entry into the United States. Further, our own government has a moral and legal mandate to enforce the law. Their willingness to “look the other way” and, in fact, work with the national governments of one or more of these aliens’ native countries in aiding their illegal entry is a sad statement of how far both the Democrats and Republicans, especially at the Federal level, have sunk.

Sixth, I find it instructive that out of all the “Press ‘1’ for English”-type phone messages I’ve heard, not one has offered their callers the option of any language other than Spanish. Why is that? Is that because Spanish-speaking people are incapable of learning English? Are the Chinese, Koreans, Somalians, Italians, Germans, and many others for whom English is not a native tongue the only ones that can and do learn English? I think not. So, why do those who speak Spanish get special treatment?

Seventh, for all the criticism that anti-illegal immigration advocates get that they are “racist,” it’s those chanting “La Raza!” who are the real racists. Some of them go even further by telling some to take a swim back to Europe because America, or at least parts of it, belongs to “La Raza!” And this is a view that has been articulated for years, unbeknownst to many U.S. citizens.

Eighth, I find it especially disturbing that the Catholic Church there in Postville, along with some Jewish groups and others, supports the breaking of the law under the guise of how we all need to “love your neighbor,” as if to “love your neighbor” and to be lawful are mutually exclusive. I’m not sure what the church there would have to gain other than more money rolling into their coffers. Perhaps that’s not the case, but, following the money does tend to pull all sorts of skeletons out of the closets. For their part, the Jews who participated in supporting those entering, living and working in the United States illegally, the only answer I can find is, there again, that it has to do with money. It makes sense to me as the Agriprocessors plant in question is owned by Jews. And like any business, lower labor costs can only add to the bottom line.

Shame on all of them, aliens included, I say.

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g. blakeman — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:44:10 -0000

" We are going to dominate this country." Edward James Olmo, addressing a large Hispanic group on Aug.5th. 2001. There are about 600 million people south of the U.S border. The ones that coming here do not want to assimilate. They are extending their race and culture north and intend by strength of numbers to challenge the current majority for cultural and political supremacy. They are not people who have much aptitude for negotiation; but rather are quick to resort to violence. There will come a time when our children will have to suffer for our negligense. My best feelings go out to all of the Patriots who care enough about our home to resist the invasion. There is much more sympathy with your stance than is apparent from the apathy that is so prevalent. " One committed person is an army"

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Noelle — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:05:18 -0000

Great argument Eddy. Did you forget to actually say something?
What numbers are you asking for? You said numbers equal racism.
Your argument doesn't make any sense.
If you seriously would like to debate, there's no need to call people names. Do you have any facts, or just name-calling?

You say people of color. Are you saying all illegals are black?
Your comments are the most racist I've seen posted.
And why would you assume I'm white?!
You're the only one obsessed with race.
You keep talking about skin color.
I used it in reference to culture, country or language of origin.

Social security?
Most illegal immigrants DON'T PAY TAXES!!!
Who are YOU calling stupid?! You really don't have a clue.

AND you don't need an identity to collect welfare, Einstein.
You just need a pseudonym, and to be pregnant & illegal.
Legal citizens need tons of documentation, and even if they need it are usually denied. Illegals get "emergency medical care", no documentation needed. Free healthcare for them and their babies.
The baby then gets citizenship, and they both get welfare for as long as they like because the mother is the caregiver.

I had a job, but no health insurance when my kids were born.
I couldn't even get them immunizations, the same ones that illegals get for free. Maybe you should check your facts. United States citizens are the ones being discriminated against, by definition.

John H. Farr, maybe you should read that again.

The United States of America were formed after the Revolutionary war.
Since many of the French helped win the war, there was much debate about our national language. A vote was taken, and it was decided that English would be the language of our new nation, not French, and all of our founding documents were written in English.

The UNITED States of America thought that it was important to share ONE culture. It didn't matter where you came from, as long as you shed your identity and became American. An American speaks one common language-English, pledges allegiance to one flag, the American flag, and abides by the laws of this nation, set forth by our founding fathers. It has to do with allegiance and pride of this country, and the willingness to fight for it and to protect it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with race.
Maybe you should ask yourself if you are racist,
or maybe just anti-American?
I'm assuming you are neither, probably just not understanding what the real problem is.

You speak of compassion.
You must be wealthy or in some other way removed from the situation.
Many illegals that DO work, are kept as modern day slaves. They live in inhuman conditions (prisoners are generally treated better) held captive by scumbag landlords and employers, and given only what someone feels like giving them. They are used, and sometimes physically abused. They are not on the payroll, they are paid in cash, much like a babysitter, and no taxes are collected.
I've worked with many of them, and spoke to many of them.
The people that I knew were essentially held captive by the restaurant owner, and given slave wages.
They were nice people, but their goal was common: they all needed to find an American girl to impregnant as quickly as possible.
They would talk her into marriage, and would not be deported.
The baby would be paid for, and she would have to support him through welfare. When he got bored, he could return to his country of origin. Many already had families in other countries, that were abandoned for "a better life".

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Robert — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:28:57 -0000

The Postville raid is just the beginning. God bless those who had the courage to go to Postville and face the blantant Catholic church, the Jewish criminals, and the illegal aliens. Some Americans have the patriotism and the will to confront these people and the mass media.

The ignorant flaming liberals (ex. Ralph and Eddy ...)who have posted live in another world ... a kool-aid ideology that has made mush of their brains and rotted their guts. They are but a few who want to destroy America. Common sense and reasoning are not part of a liberals make-up.

Americans...time is running out. We must hear more voices and see more resistance against this invasion. Our government and most of our elected reps are weak and scared.

The Chamber of Commerce (at all levels)is the largest funded enemy supporting illegal immigration. They are pouring millions $$ into lobbying funds to combat any effort made by Americans to stop the invasion of illegal alien foreign nationals. La Raza (The Race)...the powerful and racist Mexican organization...well funded by the Ford Foundation and our Federal government.. is equally trying to import, populate, and take over all of the Southwest area of The United States.

We, who stand and fight, are tired. We, who speak out and rally and contact our government need help from Americans. Americans who will stand beside us and fight for our nation. God Bless America !!

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Tom — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:46:03 -0000

Where are the Iowans flocking to take the jobs the illegals were doing? They are now from Somalia. Exploit away!

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Michael — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:21:53 -0000

OK, I am a racist, NOW can we have the ILLEGAL immigrants GO HOME?

ILLEGAL immigrants are getting services for a greatly reduced benefit than a high paying TAXPAYER! I hope the California school that is being sued over this concept goes down hard.

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Chantal — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:37:48 -0000

Do those who refer to law-abiding, legal citizens who demand that those appointed/elected uphold and enforce our laws as "racists" realize how ridiculous this is and how it proves the amount of the LaRaza Kool-Aid they have swallowed?

Employers, be they those who hire an illegal housekeeper or a meat processor, claim that they have compassion for those less fortunate and are providing them with a better life. In reality, what they are saying is, "Come work for me at wages far higher than what you could earn in your home country (but well below what I would have to pay a legal American citizen). Your life will be better, but never as good as mine (due to the huge profits I will derive from your slave labor)."

The employers who exploit Hispanics for their own profit are the true "racists." The Hispanics who illegally enter, reside, and work in our country are those who have violated, and continue to violate, our laws.

We have one group that consists of legal citizens demanding that their taxes be used for enforcing our laws; another group that consists of employers who are violating our laws and exploiting, for profit, human beings as modern day slaves; and, a group of people who have illegally entered our country and blatantly advertise their loyalty to a foreign country, demand rights, in Spanish, that are, by law, granted exclusively to legal citizens, and brazenly march through our tax-paid streets, disrupting businesses and causing social unrest.

To use a legal term, which group would appear "to the normal person" as the one that is most justified in their demands? Certainly not the modern day slave masters and most definitely not those from foreign countries who have absolutely no right to be in this country.

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Bob — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:34:54 -0000

Why do "fuzzy-minded liberals" promote themselves as being tolerant, compassionate and concerned about racism..when in fact, they are the most intolerant, hateful, and self-loathing when it comes to their own race. Lenin called people like you "useful idiots" just before he put them out of their misery.

The only thing the illegal invaders from Mexico love about America is the currency; a good chunk of which they pull out of our economy and send back to Mexico.

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MBR — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:30:58 -0000

Why do you think that the illegals turn this into a race issue? Becasue if they address the REAL charge, i.e. breaking into the country illegally and fraudulently using our system and services, they lose the arguement right out of the gate. Cut and dried, come into the country legally or expect to meet justifiable anger and resentment.

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Iowa born and raised / AZ resi — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:08:05 -0000

Iowans had better pay attention to what's happening in their small towns! They had better find the courage to take a stand and demand all immigration laws be enforced! The state of AZ has at least 600,000 ILLEGAL residents, the majority coming from Mexico. Many of our schools are 99% non-English speakers. Latest statistics show nearly 2 BILLION dollars is being spent each year educating students who are in AZ illegally, or under the false pretense of automatic birthright citizenship. Who do you think gets shortchanged in the public schools?? Legal American children!

This country cannot continue to import millions of unskilled, uneducated individuals. American citizens need to get their heads out of their big-screen televisions and demand accountability from ourselves, our elected leaders and businesses!

John - My family members were ALL born here in the U.S. - as legal citizens - so please don't call me an immigrant! You might want to find a new country to call home and spread your compassion there!

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Liz — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:07:11 -0000

Sorry to burst your bubble Eddy, but illegals collect all kinds of welfare. I know, I work at a social services office. They lie and cheat the system all the time. Nothing is done to them because it is a waste of time and money to pursue them. They are not even charged with a crime because they just move and start using a new name. If a citizen does that, they could be charged with a crime and are always made to pay it back, total double standard. Ralph, you can't compare apples to oranges. Woman and blacks were DENIED their rights. Illegals are invaders who try to get rights they to which they are not entitled. Illegals are not American citizens, they are citizens of other countries. They are not here because they love this land and want to assimilate. They just want the benefits of being here. Notice all the Mexican flags, bandanas, etc at the Iowa Rally Sunday? Those people love and are loyal to their Mexico, and there is nothing wrong with that. I love my country too. That is why we need to make sure we secure the border and know who is coming in, keep out drugs and gangs. Those people deserved to be arrested, they lied, falsified documents and stole others social security numbers. I want a better life too, but I won't hurt someone else to get it. Hmmm, I am not seeing any indication of race mentioned in the "racist" comments. Are YOU somehow saying that illegals are of a certain "race" and therefore the term "illegal" is racist?

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John H. Farr — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:59:07 -0000

Geez!

"BECOME AMERICAN. Stop forcing your culture down everyone else’s throat."

I guess this person would have us all live in tipis and hunt buffalo.

Seriously, the racism expressed by so many commenters here is appalling. Don't you know we're all immigrants? ALL only passing through this world? Where is your compassion?

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Eddy — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:20:23 -0000

I am in complete agreement with Ralph, you are all racists, period. There are no ifs nor buts about it. And for all those that have retired on Social Security, you should be thanking undocumented immigrants, because they mostly don't collect their taxes back and have kept the system going for decades. Welfare?! No undocumented person can apply for it! They are undocumented genius! Maybe their kids, but that just points to the continued lack of resources our government puts on communities of color.

And Noelle, you are crazy! You are not a victim, please. You just rant and rant, no proof, no numbers. Because when the numbers are shown, you really see the truth. This is about race 100%, you all are RACISTS!!!!!!

All these numberUSA and FIRM and minute men are all made up of KKK, RACISTS WHITE SUPREMACISTS, get use to it, you are with them.

Makes me sick to be white

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American Patriot — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:42:32 -0000

What part if illegal do you not understand. You broke the law you pay the price. When you came here knowing you might get caught you would be sent back and the family would be split. That is the chance you took. If I brake the law I as a citizen pays a fine or go to jail. What makes you any different?????

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Carol from California — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:09:51 -0000

These jewish so called do gooders, who pretend to have concern for the illegals, are only worried about having cheap labor for their businesses.

They are no better than slave traders.

And they are breaking Federal laws by aiding and abetting and hiring illegal slave labor.

They are too cheap to pay anyone a decent wage, so they have to stoop to putting Americans out of work.

Will serve them right when the illegal invaders take over their businesses.

Then they will have to join the ranks of millions of Americans who lost their businesses and jobe to the illegal invaders.

These people who hire illegals are nothing but traitors to America.

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Wanda — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:08:10 -0000

If you believe that illegal immigration should be reduced, then go to
www.NumbersUSA.com and start faxing (for free) your congressional reps.
It is better to curse the darkness of Congress than sit silently stewing about this.