Palin has alot of questions to answer and probably more skeltons in the closet. Such is life when you decide to run for office. I disagree that the Media should Lay off of Palins personal life,They reflect how she would govern and speaks volumes about her morals or lack of them.
Peggy2
· 1 year ago
Do you want the press to delve into Palin's personal life or her underage daughter's?
bish8
· 1 year ago
My heart goes out to Palin's pregnant daughter. There is a lot of shame and humiliation being in this situation. Her Mother new she was pregnant but chose to further her own political aspirations. Now the whole world knows she is pregnant. What happen to the "Family First" Family Values ? She threw her own daughter under the bus.
Peggy2
· 1 year ago
Don't you think Palin discussed the ramifications of all this at length with her family, including her daughter? Don't you think if her daughter would have objected, she would have said no to the VP job?
I feel sorry for her daughter, too, because of the morons in the press who will jump all over this because they're too lazy to get out and do real work.
Why doesn't somebody at Iowa Independent follow up on story buried in Bret Hayworth's blog about the two kids who were elected to be youth delegates to the national DNC but didn't get to go?
bish8
· 1 year ago
No I don't. Don't forget, she also has a special needs baby to worry about but obviously isn't.
Peggy2
· 1 year ago
You have no clue what arrangements will be made regarding their family.
Your pointless speculation is a waste of cyberspace.
primus
· 1 year ago
Her daughter is almost a adult,her mother preaches against birth control and family planning. They are both fair game. bish8 is right Family Values my butt.
Peggy2
· 1 year ago
So, Palin's minor daughter is fair game because she's "almost an adult?" I'd bet a million dollars that Bristol Palin knew full well what kind of fallout was coming when her mother accepted her place on the Repub ticket.
The difference between the Palins and gutless bloggers is that the Palins appreciate the truth and own up to their misgivings. They don't hide behind political blogs and fictitious names.
Bristol Palin has more balls than you, Primus!
primus
· 1 year ago
She was Forced to tell the media the truth Peggy,Trouble is she did it to late and now She has to pay for it.Its not to late for her to turn down the job offer since there are other things we dont know about her. I would suggest McCain drop her like a hot potato and pick Lieberman like he wanted.:)
Peggy2
· 1 year ago
Jefferson Morley, you disgusting low-life,
How is Ms. Palin's pregnancy "proof that abstinence education doesn't work?" How do you even KNOW what she's been taught, either at home or in school? The ONLY way abstinence education will take hold is for the entire country to embrace the concept. Hollywood, MTV, television sitcoms, the fashion industry, etc. are relentlessly undermining the efforts of parents who teach abstinence to their kids.
Are cavities proof that tooth brushing doesn't work?
For a journalist, you don't think much.
Stwriley
· 1 year ago
Well, actually, the pregnancy is very good evidence indeed in Palin's case.
It comes down to several things, all of which fit together:
First, Palin is and has been a staunch, public advocate of abstinence-only, so if that's not what she's teaching at home, then she's a hypocrite at best. I'm betting it is (I think she holds such positions genuinely) and that Bristol had a good bit of "wait 'til you're married" at home.
Second, her school district has a specifically abstinence-only curriculum. The district's health standards (page 5, standard ACS-B1:h) lay out the standard statement of abstinence-only sex-ed.
Third, the idea that this is somehow the media's fault instead of her parents for not allowing her to have a decent idea of how not to get pregnant is fairly silly, especially when there's the usual "shock and horror" at celebrity teen pregnancy.
Fact is, abstinence-only is a proven failure, we have the statistics and even the NY Times noticed the problem some time ago. Yet, because it fits their own conservative social agenda, the far right-wing keeps pushing it. So basically, they're prepared to send kids out into the world with no real knowledge of how to protect themselves from disease or pregnancy and can't even show that their program delays the onset of teen sexual activity, it's avowed purpose and the reason they claim no other measures are necessary.
This is not just the normal tribulations of an American family, it's a perfect example of "hoist on your own petard." Palin pushed this radical social idea at home and in her public capacity, and now it's come back to bite her.
Peggy2
· 1 year ago
You've heard the adage, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink?"
Eighty percent of teen pregnancies are unplanned. Considering that abstinence-only education has gotten laughed off by liberals and most schools don't teach it, can't it be said that traditional sex ed ("I know you're going to have sex so here' s condom.") is also a massive failure?
You're glossing over reality.
daddysteve
· 1 year ago
I realize that this website is more "blue" than "red" but I hope your not trying to imply that the democrats are any better than republicans on morality issues. Where's the "family values" in dumping TRILLIONS of dollars of national debt onto our grandchildren? Don't get me wrong, I'm not pushing the republican platform in any way,shape or form. I'm just saying the two parties are indistinguishable.
Lorih
· 1 year ago
I disagree with many of Palin's stances including those on choice and sex education. However, I strongly agree with Senator Obama's statement:
"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.
"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."
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I feel sorry for her daughter, too, because of the morons in the press who will jump all over this because they're too lazy to get out and do real work.
Why doesn't somebody at Iowa Independent follow up on story buried in Bret Hayworth's blog about the two kids who were elected to be youth delegates to the national DNC but didn't get to go?
Your pointless speculation is a waste of cyberspace.
They are both fair game. bish8 is right Family Values my butt.
The difference between the Palins and gutless bloggers is that the Palins appreciate the truth and own up to their misgivings. They don't hide behind political blogs and fictitious names.
Bristol Palin has more balls than you, Primus!
She has to pay for it.Its not to late for her to turn down the job offer since there are other things we dont know about her. I would suggest McCain drop her like a hot potato and pick Lieberman like he wanted.:)
How is Ms. Palin's pregnancy "proof that abstinence education doesn't work?" How do you even KNOW what she's been taught, either at home or in school? The ONLY way abstinence education will take hold is for the entire country to embrace the concept. Hollywood, MTV, television sitcoms, the fashion industry, etc. are relentlessly undermining the efforts of parents who teach abstinence to their kids.
Are cavities proof that tooth brushing doesn't work?
For a journalist, you don't think much.
It comes down to several things, all of which fit together:
First, Palin is and has been a staunch, public advocate of abstinence-only, so if that's not what she's teaching at home, then she's a hypocrite at best. I'm betting it is (I think she holds such positions genuinely) and that Bristol had a good bit of "wait 'til you're married" at home.
Second, her school district has a specifically abstinence-only curriculum. The district's health standards (page 5, standard ACS-B1:h) lay out the standard statement of abstinence-only sex-ed.
Third, the idea that this is somehow the media's fault instead of her parents for not allowing her to have a decent idea of how not to get pregnant is fairly silly, especially when there's the usual "shock and horror" at celebrity teen pregnancy.
Fact is, abstinence-only is a proven failure, we have the statistics and even the NY Times noticed the problem some time ago. Yet, because it fits their own conservative social agenda, the far right-wing keeps pushing it. So basically, they're prepared to send kids out into the world with no real knowledge of how to protect themselves from disease or pregnancy and can't even show that their program delays the onset of teen sexual activity, it's avowed purpose and the reason they claim no other measures are necessary.
This is not just the normal tribulations of an American family, it's a perfect example of "hoist on your own petard." Palin pushed this radical social idea at home and in her public capacity, and now it's come back to bite her.
Eighty percent of teen pregnancies are unplanned. Considering that abstinence-only education has gotten laughed off by liberals and most schools don't teach it, can't it be said that traditional sex ed ("I know you're going to have sex so here' s condom.") is also a massive failure?
You're glossing over reality.
"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.
"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/...